What is Advent of Zenith really?
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What is Advent of Zenith really?
Alright, I know someone is gonna try to smite me for this, but... I've never played Advent of Zenith. Yes I know! All I see hosted are Dota, Island Defense, a few tower defenses etc. I've played awhile and am interested in it fro mthe great things I've heard, but would like to know what you guys love about it, and anything I should know for my first time playing. What you say is important, as an example, I may just host it myself, unless you say something about nub hosts *cringes*. As a fellow gamer wishing to pick a game, please make my first time a good one ^^.
Side Note: My first few games of dota, horrible, all i got was shouts of "noob!" when i asked a question, threats of banning, and i could barely play because they had those idiotic pre-game quizes, asking the price of god knows what. There's a difference between someone new, and a noob. The noob runs directly into the enemy base to die. The new guy tries his best to play like the others and asks questions. Before you bite someones head off, try to tell them what they did wrong and what to do right before lowering the banhammer or custom kicking a guy. It's worth it to create a pro rather than slowly lose map players because of lack of fresh blood.
Side Note: My first few games of dota, horrible, all i got was shouts of "noob!" when i asked a question, threats of banning, and i could barely play because they had those idiotic pre-game quizes, asking the price of god knows what. There's a difference between someone new, and a noob. The noob runs directly into the enemy base to die. The new guy tries his best to play like the others and asks questions. Before you bite someones head off, try to tell them what they did wrong and what to do right before lowering the banhammer or custom kicking a guy. It's worth it to create a pro rather than slowly lose map players because of lack of fresh blood.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
What's your online screen name, and what server are you on? I'll teach ya next time I host you're on.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
Erm, this is my screename, and I use the US server. But what do you like about the map exactly, above other maps? =S
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there are two US servers... West or East.
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Um... East? I'm pretty sure. Maybe it was Azeroth
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"My wand will never leave this hand!" "If you don't leave my room I'm getting the sharpener"
"You've won this time, but I will be back!"
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"You've won this time, but I will be back!"
- SetaSoujirou
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Lordaeron = West. Azeroth = East. Less DotA in East. Crap-load of DotA and some random retarded non-english AoS on West. DotA pregame quizzes? Never heard of that ._. Too much hating on DotA, not enough hating on the people who play it. But enough of that.
Wanna play AotZ/DoE? Come stop by clan VZ (On East) You get a game every once in a while.
Wanna play AotZ/DoE? Come stop by clan VZ (On East) You get a game every once in a while.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
or perhaps you could come by clan OVRD some late night when we ACTUALLY get our shit together and play a match. Aotz hosters sometimes even have a nice roster of devoted AoTZ gamers on B.net (at least I know a few) and I could give you some names...
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I was scared somebody was asking a philosophical question . 'What is Aotz to you?'
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Too bad all the games are over rated on BNet nowadays.pandamanar wrote:or perhaps you could come by clan OVRD some late night when we ACTUALLY get our shit together and play a match. Aotz hosters sometimes even have a nice roster of devoted AoTZ gamers on B.net (at least I know a few) and I could give you some names...
Lol. That would've been cool.TheIrishPatriot wrote:I was scared somebody was asking a philosophical question . 'What is Aotz to you?'
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
Who says I wasn't also asking philosophically? You obviously all love it for various reasons. Perhaps a specific strategy or some wierd glitchy thing =d, or just the people that play it.TheIrishPatriot wrote:I was scared somebody was asking a philosophical question . 'What is Aotz to you?'
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"My wand will never leave this hand!" "If you don't leave my room I'm getting the sharpener"
"You've won this time, but I will be back!"
"My wand will never leave this hand!" "If you don't leave my room I'm getting the sharpener"
"You've won this time, but I will be back!"
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
I play it because of Scamp and Dahaka. Fun.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
It's unique.
The kind of feel you get from playing AotZ, sieging a base with a few heros and meteors, arrows, fireballs coming out from nowhere and trying to murder you as you strafe left and move right just to dodge them.
AotZ has an amazing lack of targetted spells and only one hero has a full assortment of them (Violet) which are even harder to use than any non-target-based spell I have ever seen in my life.
Basically what draws me to AotZ (and away from DotA) are how the characters should be used and the Items.
On a side note: Since when did DotA have quizzes? They bring newb-hate to a whole new level.
Ok so I do put quizzes sometimes, for other more teamwork-reliant games, it weeds out the more patient people. Really. The kind that actually asks you to let them stay to enjoy the game after a hardtime of quizzing , and those are the kind of people I really like.
The kind of feel you get from playing AotZ, sieging a base with a few heros and meteors, arrows, fireballs coming out from nowhere and trying to murder you as you strafe left and move right just to dodge them.
AotZ has an amazing lack of targetted spells and only one hero has a full assortment of them (Violet) which are even harder to use than any non-target-based spell I have ever seen in my life.
Basically what draws me to AotZ (and away from DotA) are how the characters should be used and the Items.
On a side note: Since when did DotA have quizzes? They bring newb-hate to a whole new level.
Ok so I do put quizzes sometimes, for other more teamwork-reliant games, it weeds out the more patient people. Really. The kind that actually asks you to let them stay to enjoy the game after a hardtime of quizzing , and those are the kind of people I really like.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
What I adore Advent of the Zenith for is the vaiety of the characters. You can't really say 'heroes' because each of them is more than just a hero. Each of them has a unique background and unique spells which are neither comparable to other character's spells nor to those of any hero in other maps. Every character can be very powerful, provided you can handle him/her. Meantime, there's none who is superior to others even if some of them seem to be.
The innovative hirable hero system implicates more diversification and strategy. I also like this map for not being focused on items but on intelligent spell usage.
My recommendation: Play the map a few times. Fight on both sides, choose different characters, don't choose just random but wisely as it is said in the beginning. If you test the map alone, you can procure an overview and learn the basics (e. g. where the travelling merchant stops) but it's real fun with at least 4 players on each side. One last tip: read the spell descriptions carefully because some of them might act differently as you had expected when you just read their name. Have fun with AotZ!
The innovative hirable hero system implicates more diversification and strategy. I also like this map for not being focused on items but on intelligent spell usage.
My recommendation: Play the map a few times. Fight on both sides, choose different characters, don't choose just random but wisely as it is said in the beginning. If you test the map alone, you can procure an overview and learn the basics (e. g. where the travelling merchant stops) but it's real fun with at least 4 players on each side. One last tip: read the spell descriptions carefully because some of them might act differently as you had expected when you just read their name. Have fun with AotZ!
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
AotZ is not AotZ without a 6v6. Anything less removes a lot of the epic-ness.
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Re: What is Advent of Zenith really?
It's tough to get a 6v6 within 30 minutes unless you have dedicated players and aren't relying only on pubbies. :\ Maybe with a bit of luck. But then the games tend to not last as long as you've waited for in the lobby.
I like AotZ because it's the AoS that stands out the most for me. I like how virtually any hero can go by the entire game using just boots and potions (and maybe a trav. rod) but is naturally well-balanced in that it doesn't -require- an imbashit inventory to be threatening.
I like how the spells are very unique, or were at the date of their release. I haven't played absolutely every AoS map out there so I have no idea if anyone's been inspired by or just blatantly ripped off some of AotZ's hero abilities. Arro Kree was the first fluid creep-tossing "telekinetic" hero I'd ever played, just to name one.
I sort of miss the 1.XX series where heroes would actually issue speech when casting. While eventually annoying in some regards (Ginther: RAAAAAAGH!) I found it made them more alive, much like the units in WH40K: Dawn of War. The hero weapons were also a nice touch, if a bit heavy on the faction and a bit of a detractor. The item-aholics would stock up their resources in order to get that shiny thing and feel special, over hiring a hero (or several, faction-wise) that might've done a better job.
Overall it's still a refreshing experience everytime I play, if only that the everyday B.net community has a hard time joining games to actually play them out.
I like AotZ because it's the AoS that stands out the most for me. I like how virtually any hero can go by the entire game using just boots and potions (and maybe a trav. rod) but is naturally well-balanced in that it doesn't -require- an imbashit inventory to be threatening.
I like how the spells are very unique, or were at the date of their release. I haven't played absolutely every AoS map out there so I have no idea if anyone's been inspired by or just blatantly ripped off some of AotZ's hero abilities. Arro Kree was the first fluid creep-tossing "telekinetic" hero I'd ever played, just to name one.
I sort of miss the 1.XX series where heroes would actually issue speech when casting. While eventually annoying in some regards (Ginther: RAAAAAAGH!) I found it made them more alive, much like the units in WH40K: Dawn of War. The hero weapons were also a nice touch, if a bit heavy on the faction and a bit of a detractor. The item-aholics would stock up their resources in order to get that shiny thing and feel special, over hiring a hero (or several, faction-wise) that might've done a better job.
Overall it's still a refreshing experience everytime I play, if only that the everyday B.net community has a hard time joining games to actually play them out.